Badenoch blames civil servants for Horizon IT scandal compensation delays
Britain's main opposition Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch, arrives to give evidence to the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry in central London on November 11, 2024. (Photo by ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP via Getty Images)
The government let bureaucracy get in the way of redress for wronged sub postmasters, former business secretary Kemi Badenoch today (11) told the inquiry into the Post Office scandal.
The Tory leader said that during her time as business secretary, she and former postal affairs minister Kevin Hollinrake "wanted to get the money out there" but were constantly given reasons why they could not by officials.
During an appearance before the Horizon IT inquiry, Badenoch said, "We had briefings on the issue with officials, and it was quite clear to me that we were allowing bureaucracy to get in the way of redress too much of the time.
"Kevin (Hollinrake) and I wanted to get the money out there, and we were always given a reason why we couldn’t.
"I feel that there is often too much bureaucracy in the way of getting things done, because people are worried about the process. They are worried about: if things go wrong, they’ll be on the hook for that. So they carry out lots of checks and balances well beyond what I think is required in order to deliver the right outcome."
Questioned by counsel to the inquiry Jason Beer KC on who allowed bureaucracy to get in the way of redress, Badenoch replied: "Well, the government machine.
"I think I remember asking a question like- ‘Why can’t we just give them the money?"’
Badenoch, who was Business Secretary for 17 months, also told the inquiry that she was determined to speed up the whole process of compensation.
“What I was seeing, the way the Department [of Business and Trade] and the Post Office was going on we’d never get to the end of it. I had my own objective of making sure we did right by the sub-postmasters.”
Badenoch added that the Post Office would have “disappeared in its current form long ago” if it was a private organisation, adding that it is a “20th-century organisation that is struggling to evolve in a 21st-century world.”
Badenoch also stated that it was “extremely disappointing” that it took an ITV drama about the Post Office scandal to get the government to accelerate compensation for wrongly convicted postmasters.
“I was not expecting the documentary [Mr Bates vs the Post Office] in January, which helped speed things along. It suddenly turned it from a value-for-money question to a public perception question.”
The inquiry saw an exchange of letters between Badenoch and Chancellor Jeremy Hunt in August 2023 requesting the extension of interim payments for the Group Litigation Order (GLO) compensation. But he initially rejected the idea.
“If you look at it in the context of what’s happening in government," she told the inquiry. "There are a thousand things that are being asked, money requested for. After a while, it just becomes another line in a ledger."
In response to the mounting pressures faced by postmasters across the UK, the Post Office has unveiled a centralised wellbeing platform aimed at simplifying access to support resources.
Post Office said the surge in shoplifting and violent incidents, documented in the 2024 ACS Crime Report, has only intensified the demand for comprehensive support.
With shoplifting on the rise year-on-year since 2021, and the Christmas trading period presenting heightened risks due to increased footfall and stock levels, the wellbeing of postmasters has become a pressing concern.
The new wellbeing platform, accessible via the Branch Hub app, provides a single point of access to a range of resources designed to meet Postmasters' immediate and ongoing needs. It is divided into three sections:
‘I Need Help Right Now’: Offers urgent support, including access to emergency services, mental health first aiders, , area and business support managers and organisations like Samaritans.
‘More Support and Guidance’: Provides practical tools such as security advice, social media abuse resources, and connections to organisations like Citizens Advice and Mind.
‘Access Community Support’: Encourages peer connections through WhatsApp and Facebook groups, as well as in-person meetings.
The initiative, a collaboration between the Post Office, the National Federation of Sub-Postmasters (NFSP), and Voice of the Postmaster, underscores a shift towards a more cooperative approach between historically independent groups, and creates a shared wellbeing network that is accessible to all postmasters, regardless of affiliation.
Mark Eldridge, postmaster experience director at Post Office, said the initiative will ensure that anyone who needs help can find it quickly and easily.
“It’s about creating a culture of care and resilience in the face of the challenges our postmasters face every day. If the initiative means helping just one postmaster, then we have done our job successfully,” Eldridge added.
Tony Fleming, postmaster at Thorne Post Office, shared how the initiative provided vital support following a traumatic armed robbery at his branch.
“It was incredibly difficult for the person faced with this violent threat, as well as the wider team. It’s a traumatic experience to go through as part of your day job and having the immediate support of the Wellbeing resource was invaluable – it really was wellbeing personified and gave me and everyone in the branch the support to get back to doing what we do best, serving our fantastic community in Thorne,” Fleming said.
Paul Patel, a Hampshire-based postmaster, echoed this sentiment, highlighting the platform’s ability to combat isolation and foster collaboration:
“It has been a difficult time for all postmasters who continue to serve their communities every day often feeling alone in their daily work life. It’s such a privilege to collaborate across the network to support Postmasters wellbeing from forming friendships to guiding for more professional support.”
Christine Donnelly of the NFSP highlighted the initiative’s accessibility and symbolic value.
“From a postmaster perspective this works on several levels. It is an easily accessible resource that offers advice and facts, but it also says by implication that we care, that participants from different areas of the business recognised a need and worked together to make it the best it could be,” Donnelly noted.
“It says you are not alone or the only one - how can you be if there is a whole site available?”
The Post Office plans to evolve the platform based on postmaster feedback, ensuring it remains relevant to emerging challenges.
Earlier this week, Post Office has announced a £20 million boost for postmasters to address their concerns that their income has not kept up with inflation over the past decade.
Both independent postmasters and Post Office’s retail partners that operate branches on its behalf will receive the top-up payment ahead of Christmas. The top-up payment will be based on both the standard fixed and variable remuneration the branch received in November.
The Post Office scandal continues to have a “severe” impact on the mental health and lives of the loved ones of victims, new research shows, calling on for tailored support for “secondary victims”.
Children (now adults), partners (including former partners), and other family members of those wrongly pursued by the Post Office, show high levels of PTSD and depressive symptoms as well as ongoing anxiety and stress.
This research indicates there is an urgent need for dedicated and tailored support for “secondary victims” impacted by this miscarriage of justice and the generational trauma that has followed as a result.
Experts examined the “ripple-effect” of harms on these “secondary victims”. As part of this work they used six clinical measures to gain insight into the impacts the Post Office scandal has had on participants’ mental health, life experiences, attitudes and beliefs.
The study was carried out by Dr Sally Day, Professor Rebecca Helm and Professor Richard Moorhead from the University of Exeter, Dr Emily Spearing, from the University of Western Australia and Dr Karen Nokes, from UCL. It has been shared with the official Inquiry, the victim core partipicant legal teams, and the Horizon Compensation Advisory Board.
Professor Helm said, “Our work suggests secondary victims of the scandal experience mental illness symptoms at worryingly high levels compared to the general population.”
At the end of the survey, participants were provided with the opportunity to share any further thoughts about the impact of the scandal. A total of 51 completed every part of the survey and 108 started it. Some indicated that they were not able to complete it due to acute suffering related to the scandal.
Clinical scales were not used to suggest or confirm medical diagnoses, but instead to develop knowledge of the variety and extent of possible harms caused by the scandal.
Many respondents met the clinical cut-off for post-traumatic stress symptoms (66.7 per cent of the 54 respondents answering the relevant questions) and depressive symptoms (69.8 per cent of the 53 respondents asking the relevant questions).
A total of 54.7 per cent of the 54 respondents who completed the anxiety-related questions met the cut-off point for requiring evaluation for high levels of anxiety (with 41.5 per cent of participants meeting criteria indicating severe anxiety).
Professor Moorhead said, “Our research clearly demonstrates how large the scandal looms in the lives of close family members of the subpostmasters and mistresses. The pain they live with is beyond sobering.
“Some family members told us they felt invisible in terms of accessing professional support services and experienced a lack of official recognition of their needs.”
The partners of those affected spoke of how lives had been “ruined” and futures altered by the impacts of the scandal. Children of former subpostmasters reported mirroring their parents’ strategies for coping, often feeling unable to disclose difficulties and access support.
Many reported feeling as if their childhoods had been “stolen” by the Post Office.
Respondents spoke of the care they hold for their family member who was a direct victim of the scandal, and how many live with a constant dread, fear, and anxiety that their family member was still at risk of having a serious mental health crisis, a nervous breakdown, and/or taking their own life.
Dr Day said, “This research highlights the ongoing mental health vulnerabilities generated from the scandal that families are forced to manage in their daily lives, largely on their own, and the potential for official responses to play a role in addressing some of the harm caused by the scandal.”
Police investigating crimes linked to the Post Office Horizon IT scandal are looking at "dozens" of potential suspects, but don't expect trials to begin until 2027. The police will also await the publication of Sir Wyn Williams’ public inquiry into the Post Office Horizon IT scandal before moving forward to charging, stated recent reports.
The investigation, which the police describe as unprecedented in size and scale, is in the first instance examining potential offences of perjury and perverting the course of justice by those involved in making “key decisions” on Post Office investigations and supporting prosecutions of branch owner-operators.
However, a second phase, which is being developed concurrently, is looking at “wider offences” and decision-makers involved more broadly at the Post Office, as well as at Fujitsu, which developed the controversial Horizon accounting software.
Three suspects have already been interviewed under caution and there are plans to interview others next year, according to police.
But no one will be charged until officers have read the final report from the separate public inquiry, almost 30 years after concerns were first raised.
Stephen Clayman, the Met commander overseeing the police investigation, said officers were “looking at the actions of prominent individuals” beyond those directly involved in making decisions on Post Office investigations and supporting prosecutions.
“We will go where the evidence takes us,” The Guardian quoted Clayman as saying. “We are looking at the Post Office and Fujitsu and anything wider. We will cast the net wider in terms of culpability.”
“The scale of the task ahead is unprecedented. I do know that if you take into account Post Office criminal and private prosecutions, civil claims and contract withdrawals, there are potentially thousands of victims who we are working hard to identify.”
Clayman added, “No key decisions will be made around submissions and charging decisions until the final report is delivered and thoroughly reviewed by the investigation team and the Crown Prosecution Service. We are looking at 2027 [for trials] realistically.”
“We have been building a larger investigation team made up of officers across all forces. All forces are contributing to the build of a national team. This is a truly national operation in scale and should be resourced as such.”
Michael Norman, the senior investigating officer, added that police were also looking at “investigators, solicitors, barristers and people within Fujitsu as well”.
“As others [persons of interest] come into scope we will look at those as well, if they become raised to suspect status,” Norman said. “It is very fluid. The issue of corporate liability, corporate culpability, is always open.”
Norman said that to date the police had interviewed three individuals under caution, dating back to 2021, with the most recent in September this year. Clayman said prosecutions would not reach trial until 2027, in part due to the “unprecedented” scale of the investigation, which is reviewing more than 1.5 million documents.
More than 900 post office operators were prosecuted between 1999 and 2015 because of faulty Horizon accounting software that made it look as though they had been committing fraud.
The Post Office is predicting that close to £1 billion worth of cash will be withdrawn over the counter at its branches in December.
Last December, Post Offices handled a then record £930 million worth of personal cash withdrawals at its branches.
New figures released today (10) reveal the impact ‘Storm Bert’ had on cash transactions at PostOffices in November. Just over £3.5 billion in cash deposits and withdrawals were handled by branches in November. This compared with £3.7 billion in October and PostOffice has attributed this month-on-month fall to ‘Storm Bert’ which impacted Wales, the South West of England, Central England and Scotland at the end of November.
Personal cash deposits totalled £1.45 billion which was down 4.5% month-on-month (£1.52 billion, October 2024) but was up 12.3 per cent year-on-year (£1.29 billion, November 2024). Business cash deposits in November totalled £1.12 billion which was down 7 per cent month-on-month (£1.21 billion, October 2024) but was up 1.5 per cent year-on-year (£1.11 billion, November 2024).
Personal cash withdrawals totalled £916 million in November which dipped 1.3 per cent month-on-month (£928 million, October 2024) but was up 4.3 per cent year-on-year (£879 million, November 2024).
Ross Borkett, Post Office Banking Director, said, “Following the large-scale disruption caused by Storm Bert last month, postmasters and their teams are on hand to support small businesses who desperately rely on cash takings in the run-up to Christmas. Our branches provide somewhere convenient and secure where they can deposit their cash.
“Many people rely on cash in order to budget in the run-up to Christmas Day and the trends we’re seeing indicate that personal cash withdrawals will be greater in December than the previous year.
"People can withdraw the cash they need, to the penny, at our branches with many open long hours and on the weekend.”
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As at 16 October, 88 hubs have been opened in partnership between Cash Access UK and the Post Office. 168 Banking Hubs have now been announced by LINK with further openings planned for later this year.
Two serving postmasters, Brian Smith and Sara Barlow, have been elected to the Post Office board as non-executive directors.
This is the second time in the Post Office’s 360-year history that serving postmasters have been elected to the board. Smith and Barlow will replace Elliot Jacobs and Saf Ismail who were first elected to sit on the board in 2021.
The appointment of Smith and Barlow follows approval from business and trade secretary Jonathan Reynolds. It comes after the Post Office chair Nigel Railton set out an ambitious five-year Transformation Plan for the Post Office to deliver a ‘New Deal for Postmasters’.
Brian Smith is the postmaster for Clocktower Post Office on the Shetland Islands. He has run the branch for 19 years. He said: “I am eager to bring my unique insights, diverse skills, and unwavering commitment to the Post Office's mission to the board. My passion for community engagement, drive for innovation, and a deep understanding of the retail landscape, will all aid me to support the Post Office on its path to modernisation and continued success.”
Sara Barlow is the postmaster for Rainhill, Merseyside. She has run the branch for six years and has been awarded a British Empire Medal for services to business and the community. Barlow said: “I have been an active participant in many postmaster working groups, forums and associations. Whether it’s through Peer Support or in my role on the Wellbeing initiative team, I am driven to help support postmasters on a wide range of issues from remuneration improvements to emotional support.”
Voting to elect two new postmasters as non-executive directors to the Post Office board took place between 30 September and 16 October.
Commenting, post office minister Gareth Thomas, said: “It’s absolutely right that postmasters should play a leading role in shaping the future of the Post Office, providing invaluable experience to ensure it serves the needs of communities across the country. Brian and Sara will make excellent additions to the leadership team, helping to further bridge the gap between branches and the board.”
Railton added: “I am delighted to be welcoming Brian and Sara to the board. We have an ambitious five-year Transformation Plan for the Post Office and both will bring critical real-life experience to the role helping us deliver a ‘New Deal for Postmasters’ that will also benefit the nine million customers that visit our branches every week and who rely on the essential products and services postmasters and their teams provide.”
Following an induction and training programme, covering the corporate and legal aspects of fulfilling the duties of a non-executive director, Smith took up his position on the Board on 4 December and Barlow will take up her position on the board on 28 January 2025.
Current postmaster non-executive director Elliot Jacobs tenure on the board has been extended to bring business continuity to the board alongside Smith and Barlow. Saf Ismail has stepped down from the board.