Industry was left stunned in March this year when leading retail figure Victoria Lockie announced her abrupt departure from Nisa’s Head of Retail position. After all, having spent over a decade at Nisa, much of it leading from the front, Lockie had become a formidable presence, embodying the brand with her strong leadership and even stronger voice.
Her exit left many wondering what her next move would be. It didn’t take long for the answer to emerge.
Just a few months after leaving Nisa, the retail world was buzzing again with the news that Lockie had taken up a crucial new role at the UK’s largest buying group.
In early September, Lockie was appointed as Retail Director at Unitas, where she is tasked with driving the group’s retail and wholesale growth initiative as well as further development of its own brand range. Considering her experience in retail that spans more than three decades, starting from ground zero and rising to the top, bringing her on board is clearly a brilliant move by Unitas.
In an industry-first exclusive interview, Lockie talked in detail with Asian Trader about her strategy for navigating the evolving landscape, the challenges, issue of gender diversity, and how she plans to ensure Unitas stays ahead in all respect in an increasingly competitive market.
Lockie said, “The role of retail director has been created to further grow Unitas Wholesale’s retail offer and capabilities. Working with the wider team, I will be leading the retail and commercial agenda, which will not only shape the ‘Plan for Profit’ category management scheme, but also support the growth of our members’ symbol store development programs, the group’s retail and wholesale promotional programs and the continued roll out of the Local Living own brand range.”
Her new task is as challenging as it sounds exciting, but she has no illusions about the magnitude of the work ahead. The new role will also require her to focus on providing support for Unitas’ retail wholesalers to improve the proposition and execution in depot.
She said, “I will be supporting Unitas members to have the right products at the right price at the right time, executed well in depot so it actively engages retailers and drives sales and delivers ROI for our suppliers.”
The role of Retail Director also comes with a specific focus on strengthening the support that Unitas provides to its members in the ever-evolving digital landscape.
“I will also be working with the Unitas team to drive forward the digital agenda to ensure our members and their retailers can access our industry-leading support in the ways that are most accessible and appropriate for them,” Lockie notes, reflecting her commitment to embracing technology and modernizing Unitas’s retail strategy.
A kick start
With a recent successful conclusion of the Unitas conference that saw the attendance of record number of member businesses, Lockie seems to have hit the ground running.
Lockie’s arrival at Unitas coincided with the group’s four-day annual conference, and it proved to be the perfect launch pad for her new role. The timing couldn’t have been better.
She said, “Since joining Unitas Wholesale, my first few weeks have been a blur of activities, and I have loved it. I have immersed myself in the group and its membership, and the conference was a fantastic opportunity to meet so many in such an engaging and positive environment.”
The conference took place in Vilamoura, Portugal from September 20-24, creating quite a buzz among wholesalers and suppliers alike.
Smashing its earlier records, the conference was attended by a record number of member businesses, representing “more than 95 per cent of Unitas Wholesale turnover along with a record-breaking 900 one-to-one member and supplier meetings”.
At the heart of the conference, which was themed around “Inform, Inspire and Engage”, were in-depth and thought-provoking presentations by industry leaders, including figures such as Leon co-founder and author Henry Dimbleby, economist Paul Johnson, Lumina Intelligence’s Jill Livesey and Ed Stibley, TWC’s Tanya Pepin and DGA Group’s Katherine Morgan.
Members also took to the stage to share their stories with the suppliers in the room to aid insight and awareness of the opportunities in the channel which everyone found beneficial.
Lockie herself was the key part of a panel session focused on the future of retail.
She revealed, “It was a real privilege to take part in a panel session focused on the future of retail, where I was able to share some of my experience and outline some of my plans, such as how we will be supporting our members’ retailers to create stores that are industry leading, relevant and innovative by embracing the latest technologies, and Unitas’ retail expertise.
“This will ensure our members’ stores will best serve the communities that rely on them with what they need, when they need it.”
Reflecting on her first few weeks, Lockie said, “What a start to the role! What an incredible few days, full of positivity, enthusiasm and energy! It was the best and greatest introduction to the group and its members.”
Post-conference, Lockie is eager to hit the road, travelling across the country to meet several Unitas members dotted across the UK with a mission to better understand their infrastructures, depots, and symbol estates.
She informed, “Looking ahead, over the coming weeks I’m focusing on getting out on the road, travelling the length, breadth and depth of the UK to visit as many member businesses as I can so I can spend time fully understanding their infrastructure, depots and symbol estates in order to bring the best support I can.”
Retail bug
Lockie’s love affair with retail began at the tender age of 14 when she started working in a local convenience store.
She said, “I started my career at Costcutter in 1987, working in a variety of roles, including six years in IT which has led to my understanding and respect for data. By working in multiple departments, I have extensive operational experience which proved to be invaluable as my role, and the business, grew.
“From running my own stores, including a diverse blend of store types, from university sites, holiday parks, small format and large, my understanding of the challenges, and opportunities, now proves to be enormously beneficial.”
At Nisa, Lockie spent more than 12 years, joining in 2012 as a sales support manager, before serving in positions such as head of retail operations and head of key accounts. Her time at Nisa was transformative, both for herself and the company. Over the years, she built lasting relationships with retailers while leading the partner base and retail team.
She also led the symbol group’s retail team through significant transitions, including Nisa’s shift from a mutual-style ownership structure to a corporate governance model.
Lockie is confident that all that she has learned will now come in handy as she has a better perspective of how things actually work.
She said, “I have spent my career embedded in convenience retail, and this knowledge will be invaluable in my new role.
“Through my years at Nisa and with Costcutter before that, I have spent my career embedded in convenience retail so this knowledge and insight will be invaluable in my new role. My experience has shown me, repeatedly, the critical importance of encouraging retailers to stay close to their customers.
“Understanding the needs of your customer base and the area in which you operate is essential to ensure your range is right.”
Apart from navigating business decisions, the key role at Nisa also armed Lockie with the power of honest communication and in building lasting relationships, something which she found resonating at Unitas as well.
“During my career, I have learnt many lessons, not least the value of open and honest communication and the importance of relationships, but this is also key to everyday life. What appealed to me about joining Unitas was that one of its strategic pillars is around building sustainable relationships with its supplier base which aligns perfectly with my own approach.”
Apart from making strides on the business side, Lockie’s tenure at Nisa saw her touch several other milestones. More than just a business leader, Lockie also became a trustee for MADL (Making A Difference Locally), where she worked tirelessly to help independent retailers support their local communities.
Her tenure at Nisa also saw a sizeable impact on fair representation. Through panels and forums both internally and within the industry, she diligently worked on diversity, inclusion and mentoring activities, a passion which she is determined to pursue at Unitas as well.
Currently, she is an ambassador for Diversity in Wholesale, Women in Wholesale, GroceryAid, and WiHTL Women to Watch 2024. For many years, she has heavily supported the Association of Convenience Stores including the more recent Shopkind campaign.
She is determined to pursue the causes at Unitas as well.
“I was an active ambassador for their diversity and inclusion agenda, which I will be continuing at Unitas. I am passionate about driving this agenda forward, with continued work with Diversity in Wholesale, Women in Wholesale, Women in Retail and other industry initiatives,” she said.
Braving ahead
Clearly, Lockie brings more than just passion to the table; she also brings an unmatched depth of hands-on industry experience and more importantly, empathy.
With her decades of experience, she is acutely aware of the challenges that face both retailers and wholesalers.
She said, “There are countless issues facing the retail sector, and wholesale, right now, not least the increased cost to do business at a time when consumers are counting every penny and demanding the best value.
“At Unitas, we have recognised that there are opportunities to drive the retail proposition forward right across the group with store formats, compelling range advice and powerful promotions to meet these customer requirements.
“Our members are at different stages in their retail journey and our priority is offer the support most needed in order to counter the challenges they may face. Some members have
invested with dedicated retail teams out in the field to support their retailers, and others are at the start of this journey, so we are hard at work to understand what is needed and how we can best deliver an improved level of support to their retailers.”
Another issue that Lockie feels particularly passionate about is the rise of shoplifting, robbery, and violence against shop workers. Having introduced several successful safety initiatives in her previous roles, she is determined to bring similar programs to Unitas’s wholesale members.
She told Asian Trader, “I feel passionately about the safety and protection of convenience store retailers and how we can best support them to stay safe. In previous roles, I introduced several initiatives that were successful in protecting the welfare of retailers, and I will be looking to do the same again through our wholesale members.”
Looking ahead, Lockie feels that “value” will continue to be priortised by wholesalers and retailers as well as buyers.
She said, “Value is one of Unitas’s key strategic pillars as this will continue to play a huge role for wholesalers and retailers, so a strong value proposition is essential. Price marked packs will, of course, continue to drive trust and loyalty, but with the caveat that shared margins are appropriate.”
Apart from value, the end users also prioritise quality, something which tends to ensure the repeat customers at stores. Lockie is set to cater to this requirement through Unitas’ own label range.
She continued, “What is clear is that alongside value, customers are also expecting quality, which is why the Local Living own brand range is so key to get right. Our members’ retail customers are relying on us to deliver a high-quality value proposition, and we are confident that the Local Living SKUs currently available and those in the pipeline will tick all those critical boxes.”
Lockie is also concerned about squeezing retailers’ margin and is also focused on increasing supplier engagement at depots.
“To also drive value, our promotions need to pack a punch to deliver excellent margins, sales and footfall on the bestselling brands, and this is another of my key priorities to ensure we utilise our scale as the UK’s largest wholesale buying group to deliver really powerful deals.
“NPD of course continues to drive engagement right across the sector, in depots and in store, and by leveraging our scale and reach, we have access to the leading suppliers and brands.”
She is focused on listening – to members, suppliers, retailers – in order to establish what’s working and where improvements can be made to Unitas’ processes and propositions to provide both independent retailers and its members with the support they need to thrive.
Unitas’s “Plan for Profit” initiative is another area where Lockie is eager to make an impact.
She told Asian Trader, “I have 37 years’ experience within the retail sector, and I’ll be bringing that expertise and insight to the role to ensure our promotions, and ‘Plan for
Profit’are effective and deliver results for retailers and consumers. By working closely with members and our supplier partners, we can unlock significant opportunities both in depot and in store.
“An ongoing priority will be examining our joint business plans with suppliers with a retail lens. Not only will this enable us as a group to better understand the challenges suppliers face but also identify new opportunities to drive compliance and execution across the group.
“Talking with suppliers enables us to really understand what’s on their mind around issues such as NPD and compliance, and this helps us to shape activity in depot and in store.”
Lockie also points out that the wholesale and retail landscape gets largely impacted by regulations and legislation, such as HFSS (High Fat, Salt and Sugar) and MUP (Minimum Unit Pricing). She is confident, however, that the Unitas team is well-positioned to stay ahead of these challenges, providing members with the support and information they need through Plan for Profit, when they need it, in order to succeed.
It’s barely a couple of months but Lockie seems to have settled down well in her new key role.
She said, “Also, working with the wider Unitas team, we’re constantly exploring new opportunities to launch them across the wider membership to drive benefits for the whole group. We have a lot of plans in progress, so watch this space.”
Making inclusive workspaces
Both retail and wholesale are infamous for the pay gap when it comes to gender despite women playing a huge role in the retail sector. Apart from the pay gap, their numbers shrink rapidly with rising ranks.
Spanning 37 years, Lockie has been a part of a sector where women often tend to experience being the only woman in the room. However, the change is happening, and she has been both a witness and the key driver.
She said, “Things have moved on, without a doubt. Thanks to excellent initiatives such as Diversity in Wholesale, there is recognised support across the sector which is most welcome. However, more still needs to be done and I’m passionate about playing a role in this.
“Joining Unitas, I’m delighted to see that the group takes diversity and inclusion seriously, which is reflected in its team, and I’m really positive about the future for women in this fantastic channel.”
Lockie urges female retailers and wholesalers to never be afraid to work within different areas of the business, saying such an opportunity will always be beneficial as it gives a “broader understanding”.
Her advice to women looking to advance in retail is clear.
“Take ownership of your career. Build a broad network of people you can learn from, and endeavour to work with a mentor. Never underestimate how much you can learn from others. More people will be willing to help than you realise. You just have to ask!”
Lockie being an expert in knowing the pulse of the British convenience channel, her new role at Unitas does sound like a perfect fit not only for her but for retailers, wholesalers and the industry as a whole.
With her passion for retail and excellent business acumen along with her commitment to diversity, she is poised to lead the buying group into an exciting and dynamic future—one where independent retailers and wholesalers alike can thrive.
When Sheetal Sisodiya made the bold move from information technology to convenience store retailing in August 2022, she couldn't have imagined that within just over a year, she would be crowned Impulse Retailer of the Year at the 2023 edition of the Asian Trader Awards. Yet, this achievement perfectly encapsulates her approach to retail: doing things differently and creating a community hub that goes beyond merely selling products.
The SPAR Linford store near Bordon, Hampshire, is run as a family business, with Sheetal and her sister-in-law Rekha at the helm. While Sheetal has an IT background in the service management and finance sectors, Rekha brought experience from the car rental sector. Both women had family connections to retail.
“Her family runs stores. My family does, too – my sister and my parents. My parents have been running a store for about eight years near Norfolk. So, we thought, why not give this a go,” Sheetal recalls about their decision to venture into retail. “Everyone kept saying this was something we could do. Then we found this store in 2022 August, and we just went ahead with it.”
While her husband Bharat remains in IT, his brother Manoj, Rekha’s husband, helps out at the store, making it truly a family endeavour.
Finding the right fit
The search for the perfect store was methodical and considered. “We looked at many stores," Sheetal explains. The criteria were specific: good location for both families, proximity to schools, and most importantly, a store that could be operated immediately without requiring extensive renovation.
The SPAR Linford store, with its 20-year history in the community, ticked all the boxes.
“We didn't want something that needed too much work, and we just liked it when we came here. We liked how it was, and we could see there was quite a bit of potential still in the store to do other things,” she says.
SPAR Linford store
The store was owned by veteran retailer Julian Taylor-Green, who serves as independent vice chair, of Association of Convenience Stores, and his honest approach has also been a major factor for Sheetal and Rekha to seal the deal.
Reflecting on the transition, Sheetal admits it was an eye-opener. “Because neither one of us knew how to run a store, per se, but we had family and staff that helped, and we just learned along the way,” she says.
The support from their symbol group, SPAR, has also been crucial.
“Their support was brilliant in the start, because there was quite a lot of problems with various things like external contracts with other suppliers, etc., coming in. They helped us navigate through all the different, little problems,” she explains, adding that the support from the group remains exceptional.
“Our BDM, who's Martin, he helps us a lot with things. In fact, he was here yesterday and spent the day with us. They’ve been very helpful on any issues we face.”
One of the wisest decisions the new owners made was retaining the existing staff. While some part-time student workers have naturally moved on, the core full-time staff remained, providing invaluable continuity and expertise.
“Our staff is brilliant,” she says. “They're very knowledgeable, like Caroline in the post office, she does a lot of things, bringing new ideas into store. Then there's Daisy, who's very knowledgeable in all areas. She works in the post office, she knows the shop floor, handles delivery, ordering, also touches on promotions, an all-rounder. So that helps.”
This high-calibre team that keeps the store running smoothly gives Sheetal and Rekha peace of mind, allowing them to focus on other aspects of the business.
“If something unexpected happens and you have to run, then we don't have to worry that things are going to go wrong here. When our nephew got married in Spain this past summer, we all had to go there obviously, like half the workforce, but the staff handled everything,” she says.
While they haven't done a major refit since taking over, they've made strategic improvements, expanding the food-to-go area with slushie and ice cream machines, optimising the kitchen area, and refreshing the store's exterior.
Creating in-store theatre
What sets the SPAR Linford store apart is its dynamic approach to merchandising and seasonal promotions. The store's entrance features a distinctive display stand made from wooden crates that transforms with the seasons.
“Halloween is coming up, so our front stand right now has all Halloween items on there. We also decorate the store. It just goes with each of the themes that are changing throughout the year. So, once Halloween is finished, it'll go to a standard display, and then it will go to full on Christmas display, and then we'll decorate the whole store and the stand in the front,” she explains.
This attention to seasonal merchandising extends beyond mere decoration. The store runs weekly promotions, managed by Sheetal's niece Mira, alternating between various categories, ensuring there's always something new to attract customers.
“Promotions work very well for us,” Sheetal says. “Mira reviews prices and promotions in-store constantly, and they change every week. So those stands keep changing. Right now, we've got chocolate, sweets and crisps with the new Tango Cherry on promotion. And she makes sure the display is good, with all the banners and everything.”
Sheetal has a keen eye for selecting the right product mix for her customers. While alcohol and cigarettes remain the best-selling categories, the store also excels in confectionery and grab-and-go drinks. A notable aspect of the store’s offering is its focus on SPAR’s own-label products. Sheetal is an advocate for these, praising their good pricing and quality, which resonate with her customer base.
“I myself use it,” she vouches for the range. “And there are good products. You've got cleaning, you've got coffee, you've got teas, and now the bread as well. It's not a bad range. It works well for us.”
Sheetal is also quick to adapt to emerging trends. One area where she sees growth potential is in the shift from disposable vapes to reusable vapes, as well as the rising popularity of heated tobacco products like IQOS.
“We've started doing the reusable vapes and have already seen the shift from the disposables to the reusable ones. And people have also started switching to Heets and Terea (sticks, designed for use within IQOS devices), as well,” she says.
Community at heart
Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of Sheetal's approach to retail is her commitment to community engagement. In just two years, she has transformed the store into a community hub where many customers have become friends.
“It keeps you connected with your local community,” she explains. “A lot of them are our friends now, because we talk to them, and they feel comfortable telling us things when they need help with anything ... this is like their place of comfort. Some of the people come here daily and have a chat with us.”
The store goes above and beyond for its elderly customers, offering assistance to cars and home deliveries when needed. They also accommodate special product requests, strengthening their bond with local shoppers.
“If there's anything unusual they want, and we're able to order it, we do that for them as well. It’s important to have that connection,” she says.
What truly sets them apart is their celebration of cultural diversity. Despite having a small Asian community in the area, the store enthusiastically celebrates Diwali, introducing local customers to Indian culture through decorations, traditional sweets, and samosas. Even the staff, who never wore Indian clothes, participated by wearing traditional Indian clothing during celebrations.
“The locals didn't really know much about Diwali and how it is celebrated. So, for them it was nice as well to see the Diwali decorations, try all the different foods that we made,” she notes, adding that their customers were already telling them that the festival is coming soon.
Their community involvement extends to active participation in local initiatives. The store hosts charity events, supports the local food bank, and assists local football teams with funding. They also provide space for Poppy Appeal inside the store.
“Before they used to do it outside, on the side of the road. So, we told them they can come in here because it's cold, raining, and people are coming in the store anyway,” she says. “So it's somewhere for them to sit and do their charity raising.”
They've also built strong relationships with local suppliers. The store sells Chapel Farm eggs from a nearby supplier in Oakhanger and Hogs Back beers from a local brewery in Surrey. Sheetal’s partnership with a local Indian-Bangladeshi takeaway has also been fruitful, with their curry sauces becoming popular among customers.
Fresh cakes from Brambells are another local favorite, particularly appreciated by the elderly customers in the community. “The lady from Brambells comes every two weeks, does the order with us. We check out the different styles they have of cakes, and we change the variety because the elderly people like these fresh cakes,” she says.
Facing challenges
Like many retailers, Sheetal faced challenges, particularly around shoplifting when she first took over the store. However, her proactive approach to improving security has significantly reduced the issue.
“We've obviously spent a lot of money on our CCTV coverage. We've added quite a lot of screens as well. And the staff are now fully involved when shoplifters are here,” she says. “We've managed it very well. Now it's like the shoplifters know that it's not easy in there.”
The switch from working from home to the demanding hours of retail was another adjustment.
“I was working from home before. It’s a cushy life, easy, and then coming here, and you have to put in all the hours at the beginning,” she admits, though she notes that things have settled now, and “it's nice to have your own thing, something you're working for yourself.”
With two successful years under their belt, Sheetal and her family are now considering expansion. "We now feel more settled. We'll probably look for another store, eventually, and just go from there,” she reveals.
Her advice to other retailers reflects the philosophy that has brought her success: “Try and do something different.” Whether it's seasonal stands, in-store events, kids' games, or cultural celebrations, creating unique experiences that competitors don't offer has been key to building strong community relationships.
The store's success in a competitive environment – with a Tesco seven minutes away by car, a Sainsbury's in the next town, and a One Stop within walking distance – demonstrates the effectiveness of this approach. Customers repeatedly choose SPAR Linford not just for its well-stocked shelves and efficient post office service, but for the friendly, knowledgeable staff and the vibrant atmosphere that makes every visit special.
Journalist Nick Wallis has stood by the victims of the Post Office miscarriage of justice for nearly 15 years. Now, as the Inquiry nears its end, he shares his thoughts on the saga – and the guilty
The Post Office scandal is the greatest miscarriage of justice in British legal history, with nearly a thousand wrongful prosecutions, and a massive inquiry is ongoing.
Post Office Ltd (POL) relied on “evidence” from a fatally-flawed Horizon IT system that made it look as if sub postmasters were stealing money from their businesses. And was inclined to believe whatever the Fujitsu programmers said. POL began to prosecute postmasters from early on this century, shortly after Horizon was adopted.
Later, as more and more previously law-abiding sub postmasters turned, without or planning, to a life of hopeless crime – they were contractually responsible for financial shortfalls in their branches, so stealing was nonsensical – patterns emerged that would throw into question the robustness and integrity of Horizon and Fujitsu. But POL, committed to its shiny new IT project, ignored the protests and carried on, prosecution-happy, even after it had lost more than a dozen cases – losses which it kept very quiet about in future years.
All the prosecutions were brought by POL itself rather than the Crown Prosecution Service, and public and legal scrutiny as a result was very limited. Sub postmasters who found themselves in the dock were each lied to by POL that they were the only ones to have lost money; then bullied and blackmailed into pleading guilty, repaying “stolen” sums, or resigning. Many sub postmasters, assured that a guilty plea or a “repayment” would see the end of the matter, found themselves thrown into prison anyway – people such as Seema Misra, who was even pregnant at the time.
Accused postmasters often found themselves vilified within the communities that had come to trust them, and many were subject to racial abuse. POL debt collectors, working on commission, hounded and doorstepped the accused, who began to experience ill-health, family break-ups and mental breakdowns, even suicides.
The sub postmasters’ union was no help, because it was being financed by POL and was interested only in smoothing the way between itself and its paymaster. It merely whispered what the POL advised: give yourself up, computers don’t lie, just come clean.
At one point a slight nervousness entered POL and it hired two forensic accountants – Ron Warmington and Ian Henderson of Second Sight – to produce a report, which made uncomfortable reading in that it highlighted instances where Horizon had plainly been untrustworthy, implying that prosecutions might be unsafe. There was no Third Sight: Ron and Ed were undermined and then sacked.
POL discomfort (or growing terror) was compounded when Simon Clarke, a barrister working for a law firm retained by the organisation, looked into the matter and discovered that the Fujitsu expert witness – Gareth Jenkins – whose testimony had led to the conviction and imprisonment of dozens of luckless sub postmasters, had lied and obfuscated on many matters under oath in the witness box, rendering every conviction unsafe. This was the notorious “Clarke advice”, which POL promptly made vanish until 2020, when it was finally pried from POL’s grasp.
The prosecutions continued for many years and the conspiracy grew deeper with each sub postmaster’s false conviction.
By now, of course, a very bad but limited mistake of over-reliance on experts and technology starting two decades earlier had metastasized into the greatest legal scandal of the century, with literally hundreds of sub postmasters prosecuted, sacked, bankrupted and ruined.
This was partly for the sake of keeping POL – which had been seeking £1.5 billion in new funding from the government – looking competent and professional. Such a scandal breaking might have proven an existential matter for POL. But lethal blowback is now searing its way through the ranks of the Executive great and good (and to an extent, government) as the Post Office Inquiry goes on, wrecking reputations and placing many – one hopes – in the cold blast of serious legal jeopardy.
Sir Alan Bates, Founder, Justice for Subpostmasters Alliance (Photo Andrew Matthews - WPA Pool/Getty Images)
The mood in the country turned decisively against POL after the drama, Mr Bates vs The Post Office, was broadcast on four consecutive days from 1 January 2024. To have the entire saga laid out in a manner the public could grasp – and become outraged over – seemed almost like a miracle.
But from very early on, one man had been keeping the flame alive and doing the serious footwork of investigating and documenting all that was happening. That was Nick Wallis, an ex-BBC journalist, now a freelancer, whose Post Office Scandal website relentlessly exposed all the POL goings on, all the obfuscation, lies and evasions, the injustices and contradictions, the rumours and scandals. For years, Nick kept plugging away, always modestly, always making it clear that he was supporting the victims, the suffering sub postmasters.
In the end he wrote a book about it, The Great Post Office Scandal – in a sense a book that remains very much unfinished as we approach the culmination of the Inquiry and await the findings of its Chair, Sir Wyn Williams; and then subsequently the deliberations of the police and Crown Prosecution Service, to see whether a measure of justice will finally be meted out to the conspirators.
Asian Trader recently spoke to Nick to get his personal view about all that has gone on, and to gain an understanding of the inner workings of this greatest scandal.
Story of a scandal
“I've been following the story since 2010, watching it develop, reporting on it for various outlets, mainly the BBC,” says Nick and explains that it was only after a Court of Appeal judgment in 2021 that the government finally bowed to public pressure and agreed to make the inquiry statutory, “at which point we all knew that that would mean there was at least a possibility that we would start to hear some answers”.
Nick has been in the Inquiry hall at Aldgate House in London as often as possible, live-tweeting, for a process that has been ongoing now for over a year.
"I think one of the best things that happened to the inquiry,” Nick says, "was starting it with the human impact hearing, where you had a parade of downtrodden but honest people who had an extraordinary integrity, explaining step by step, exactly what the Post Office did to them.
“Just one or two of these stories should outrage anyone, but there were hundreds. I mean, dozens of people gave live oral evidence, and then there were many, many more witness statements that were given to the inquiry. And I think for the entire inquiry – the Secretariat, the team of barristers, the Chair and his facilitators – it focussed them on getting to the truth of what happened, and they have carried that spirit.”
The POL and Fujitsu and legal people who did have something to hide and did have to justify appalling decisions “didn't come across so well because they were essentially found out by the evidence”.
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I suggest that there were two exposures, one of the Establishment and its complacency and self-interest. And there was the exposure of what we've come to see is “professionalism” and all the ills that it can foster within an organization.
“What the scandal exposed is the absolute dereliction of duty by so many different sectors and professions and industries,” says Nick. “The corporate governance of the Post Office was negligent. The Post Office executive withheld information from the Board. The Board was not giving the correct information to the shareholder executive or the government department. The shareholder executive wasn't analysing the data that they were getting or asking the relevant questions. They were, in turn, misinforming the ministers, who again, knew they were sitting on a huge problem at times, but failed to apply themselves properly to investigate. And on top of that were the consistent failures of the legal profession to do their duty with regard to the courts and justice, rather than their own naked self-interest.”
Put like that, it seems pretty damning.
Not Rumpole of the Bailey
The legal profession – with honourable exceptions, such as Lord Arbuthnot and the excellent team of backs and lawyers who have conducted the questioning at the Inquiry – have not been morally impressive.
“The Post Office lawyers appear to have been characterized largely by – I would say incompetence just about shades out malice. And utter indifference, or in fact scorn for the sub postmasters, who were the lifeblood of their organization,” says Nick. “A lot of the litigators acting for the Post Office’s external organizations were particularly gruesome, and the barristers that they employed.”
At one point the POL on advice of its legal team, tried to get a judge who had found against them in an earlier hearing, the excellent and technically knowledgeable Mr Justice Fraser, sacked (“recused”) so that he could no longer adjudicate on the actions regarding the sub postmasters. This backfired very badly on POL.
“It’s a perfect example of lawyers who can come in, get paid an awful lot of money to throw their weight and opinions around, with in most circumstances absolutely no skin in the game. They got caught out because this was such a big scandal. It is the class of person, at the very highest levels of the legal profession and the establishment, who could not give a monkey’s about the truth of what was happening. And we saw this with plenty of the other lawyers,” Nick concludes with justifiable contempt.
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I say that, in all this time, nobody at POL wondered about why an entire class of person – sub postmasters – would decide to become criminal, all in the same way, and all with so little chance of profiting from it.
“It's purely cultural,” he answers. “The development of the Post Office and the admission of sub postmasters into the ranks of the Post Office was predicated with a class loathing, which resented their existence from the very start and saw them all as potential risks to the business, potential thieves. When discrepancies were supposedly highlighted by the Horizon IT system, they took the assurances from Fujitsu that there was nothing wrong it and were able to reinforce their prejudices against sub postmasters, by assuming their guilt. It’s culture, and culture trumps everything; culture even trumps the law.
“If you have bad culture in the legal profession, or in the corporate governance environment, or in a political, or governmental environment, that will manifest itself in injustice.”
Very many sub postmasters (and of course sub postmistresses) are of South Asian origin, and I ask Nick whether he believes racism and prejudice played a part in the prosecutions. I quote a witness testimony from a Fujitsu call-centre employee, where distressed sub postmasters would call when they saw something wrong in their accounts.
The testimony recalled how a cry would go up: “We’ve got another Patel!” – to indicate another “crook” had surfaced. There were classifications for “Negroid” in the Post Office HR bureaucracy. What was going on there?
“I had a theory that the Post Office was indiscriminate in who it prosecuted,” replies Nick. “I think the racial classification codes were shocking and appalling. The fact that the Post Office had not updated them from when they were grandfathered into the organization, from the same racist Metropolitan Police identification codes from the late 1970s, speaks volumes about their incompetence.”
Former sub-postmistress Seema Misra (Photo by HENRY NICHOLLS/AFP via Getty Images)
And the ex-coppers they employed to go after the sub postmasters.
“What I do think is particularly interesting, is when those non-white sub postmasters enter the criminal justice system. You've got a cohort of people who've never committed any crimes, because you can't become a sub postmaster if you haven't got a spotless record. Then, when you compare their sentences and the way they were treated by the criminal courts with those of their white counterparts, they seem to get massively disproportionate sentences for their first offense.”
So, it’s in the system rather than personal?
"A white sub postmaster might escape jail,” explains Nick. “A non-white sub postmaster gets a custodial sentence. A white sub postmaster gets a custodial sentence. A non-white one gets a much harsher and longer one. There is now a very interesting cohort of people to be studied because they don't have any previous offending, and therefore you can conceivably compare like-with-like.
Nick has been trying for some time now to get the data out of POL and then the government and has been working with Professor Richard Moorhead at the University of Essex to try to extract that data, but he says, “It’s been like pulling teeth. It's been glacial.”
Birth of a crime
When, I ask, does Nick believe the prosecutions tip over from being a screw-up to being an actual criminal conspiracy?
“Second Sight went in, and after a year, produced an interim report which suggested that there were two known faults with Horizon. One of the external prosecuting barristers saw this report, and within days wrote what became known as the first Clarke advice.
“That was an explosive document, it was an unexploded bomb that had just been handed to the Post Office. Its most senior lawyer read it and did not pass it on to the chief executive or the Post Office Board.
“What we still do not know is how much of the contents of that advice was communicated to the Post Office chief executive and the Post Office Board. But the Post Office CEO, Paula Vennels, wondered whether they should do a proper investigation of all their prosecutions, and she was shut down by their Head of Communications, Mark Davies, who said no, it would create a massive story, and isn't worth it.”
That meant a chain of events was set in motion which “essentially led to them being patted on the back by the various people they were paying to pat them on the back and tell them that that they didn't have a problem.”
Nick says, “That was the point when this went from appalling, terrible, inept, malicious, indifferent cock-up to a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.”
What next?
Phase Seven of the PO Inquiry his now in session – that's the That's the recommendations and reflections section that will eventually recommend future changes in POL (and hopefully more widely) to ensure nothing like this ever happens again.
But what about punishment for the wrongdoers, now we can pretty much see what happened and who did what in POL and Fujitsu and in various law firms.? Nick lays out how this world of government and big organisations works. Why did the endless ministers responsible apparently never do very much to find out what was going on?
“Information was reaching ministers through non-official means, and they were doing what they could against a machine that was determined to repel any kind of substantive exercise in raising the bonnet or lifting up the rock, and so consistently failed to uncover the problem. There was a vested interest in keeping the problem covered up.”
The system again.
Former Post Office chief executive Paula Vennells arrives to testify at the Post Office inquiry on May 22, 2024 in London, England. Paula Vennells worked as the Post Office chief executive during the key Horizon operating years from 2012 - 2019. (Photo by Carl Court/Getty Images)
“Too many people had too much to lose by saying, Okay, let's, let's do a root and branch investigation into what has gone wrong here. They knew that if they kept digging, what they found could be existential for the government and the Post Office. But when it comes to miscarriages of justice, that's the point at which you should say, I don't care if this loses me my job. I don't care if the whole cabinet has to resign. I don't care if my career prospects are blighted going forward and forever stained by a crisis that will have my name attached to it simply because I did something about it.”
Is it also that beyond this point that if I don't say something, I enter the realm of legal liability? I ask.
“I've long said that it's all very well having a carrot for whistleblowers, and to say that they’ll be protected – which, at the moment they're not – but you also need to have a whacking big stick whereby, if a senior person sees, suspects or comes across a document which even suggests something might have gone seriously wrong, that if they don't do their utmost to investigate it and alert whoever they need to alert, then there's a good chance they might go to jail. And that just simply doesn't exist in this country.”
Do you think that in the police investigation, they're going to do the FBI thing, where they'll try and tip somebody low down and then somebody higher, somebody higher, until they get somebody important
“We were all rather hoping the inquiry would turn into a circular firing squad, but it hasn't. There's no jeopardy for them, apart from maybe a bit of mild criticism or even strong criticism from Sir Wyn Williams when he finally reports.
“They can ride out whatever happens in the public arena as they're giving evidence – it's yesterday's chip paper. But if the Jeopardy is that they may well end up with a criminal conviction or jail time, it is entirely possible that some of the people who have not been as fulsome with their answers as they could have been in the inquiry, will start pointing the finger of blame at people who were directly responsible, and the police may be able to put together a case to charge those individuals higher up the chain.”
Nick’s book is available on Amazon and on his website, and it’s a brilliant, definitive read. What is the next project?
“I'm in talks to write a new book about the Gender Wars,” he says, “which is not such a departure as it sounds because it is all tied up in legal procedurals.”
“You're very brave man,” I say, with genuine admiration.
“Well, I like a scrap, and I would like to say there's no way that I will abandon this story. It's going to be part of my career for as long as the story has legs, and it's certainly got a long way left to run.”
David Wyatt explains how a major refit, great staff and a store-within-a-store spells success
David Wyatt, the recipient of the Symbol Retailer of the Year award at the 34th Asian Trader Awards, is a seasoned retailer who began his journey in retail at the tender age of 16 as a cashier, quickly progressing to management roles in his late teens and early twenties.
By 18, he was managing a petrol station at Fulham Palace Road in Hammersmith, London, and soon moved up to oversee multiple sites. His career took a pivotal turn 28 years ago when he joined Crawley Down Group, a family-run business where he has remained ever since, managing the Costcutter-Bargain Booze forecourt store in Crawley.
“The site wasn't built at that time, so I came down here beforehand, and here I've been ever since,” he says.
He has been associated with the Costcutter symbol group for over two decades, witnessing both the highs and lows of the brand.
“I remember being signed up by Jamie Davidson (now Retail Director at Bestway Wholesale) 20-21 years ago. So, we've been down the road with Costcutter for quite a while, during their ups and downs,” Wyatt reminisces.
Best of both worlds
In 2023, he oversaw a significant refit of his store, which included the introduction of the Bargain Booze concept alongside the Costcutter fascia. The dual-branded store has proven to be highly successful, particularly in expanding and improving the store's alcohol offering.
“We had a 24-hour off license, anyhow. So, when we had the opportunity to put a Bargain Booze in, with their range, knowledge and pricing, it seemed a no-brainer, and it really was the right decision,” he explains.
“Because it's clear that Bargain Booze had a wealth of experience on wines, on RTDs, ciders, and their promotions – it's a little bit different. They have a taste in the wines and everything, which is a bit more sort of you see in Marks and Spencer and Waitrose. It was a different proposition, and I must admit, it's been an amazing success in the last year.”
In addition, he has been able to increase his spirits range by 400 per cent, while stocking products in smaller quantities.
“I don't have to buy everything by the case. So being able to have a bigger range and only purchasing one or two bottles, again, from a cost perspective, I'm not sitting on so much stock. So that worked very well,” he says.
Wyatt values the support from Bestway Wholesale, the owner of Costcutter and Bargain Booze brands, and the strong relationships he has built with the group.
“I'm quite a loyal person. I've been loyal to Costcutter, Shell, and I think that's reciprocated when I have problems. And that's relationship, isn't it,” he says. “The people that I've come in contact within Costcutter, whether that's Jamie Davidson or Adrian O'Brien [Head of Symbol – Bestway Retail], they're all very knowledgeable people, so I lean on their shoulders when required.”
He considers the store-in-store concept being promoted by Bestway Retail as a step in the “right direction.”
“They're driving forward within the symbol groups, and putting brands together makes the proposition for the customer stronger,” he adds.
A significant aspect of Wyatt's retail strategy involves leveraging the Co-op on brand range, which he finds particularly crucial in the current economic climate.
“Co-op is a strong own brand, and within each category, we have a quite a strong representation of Co-op own brand,” he says.
“It's important that the customers, who are more price conscious, need to have the option on the shelf alongside the normal brand that may be more expensive. Co-op is well known, trusted, and especially within the chilled, Co-op own brand is very important to us.”
Expanding innovation
Wyatt's innovative approach to retail is evident in the cutting-edge features and carefully-curated product categories of his store.
One of Wyatt’s key innovations is the introduction of electronic labeling. He views this as more than just a cost-saving measure, emphasising the precision and professionalism it brings.
“There is a cost to staff putting out labels, and then there's a cost of having electronic labels. But then I think that's only part of the story,” he explains.
“One of the things that I found, especially in bigger stores, is that if you're relying on staff to put out X amount of labels, at any given time, you can't be sure that all your prices are correct, whereas with electronic labels you know the price is always correct.”
The labels not only display the price but also provide comparisons with competitors such as Tesco Express, giving customers confidence that they are getting a good deal.
“So, yes, there's a cost saving, and there's a cost to have them. But to my mind, you know that you have peace of mind of every single price in the shop is correct. And to me, it's a no brainer. You just have that confidence. You don't have people coming to the till saying the label says, ‘it’s this price and it's the wrong price’,” he says.
The labels also streamline promotions, allowing customised spotlight displays for seasonal campaigns, which improve the overall store presentation and customer engagement.
“With this, say, with Halloween coming, I can create a Halloween spotlight. Add in the products, and all those labels will have, like a little skull or pumpkin or whatever I decide on those products. It's all done electronically. Otherwise, you'd have to go out on some of these things. Costcutter kind of sends out the things they deem relevant to Halloween, but you could put anything on there. So again, it gives you flexibility,” he adds.
Top sellers
Wyatt's food-to-go offering also sets his store apart from competitors, positioning it as a convenient and competitive option in the local market that has the presence of chains like Subway, Greggs and Costa Coffee.
“Within the food to go, I wanted to create something a little bit more bespoke. So, I work with Stone Willys Kitchen, they do wraps and pizzas and things like that. I bought a milkshake machine, so we create our own milkshakes, barista coffee machine, so we can do coffees. We're just starting on smoothies as well. And I am doing a lot of work at the moment with Delice. We swap out a lot of our breads and cakes and croissants and the like,” he explains.
The store offers an impressive array of meal deals, catering for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
“As opposed to just having a sandwich meal deal, we’ve got wrap meal deals, burger meal deals, breakfast meal deals, helping people to save money by widening what is normally known as a like just a standard meal deal,” he adds.
Though an initial attempt at click-and-collect didn’t take off, partly due to the due to the efficiency of their grab-and-go system. “We found that people would just come in, because they could just grab and go whatever they wanted,” he says – Wyatt is now preparing to expand his food to go offerings via Just Eat, aiming to meet off-site demand while extending service hours.
“Delivering off site is our next sort of target, because we've held off of that for the last year just to get the offering right on site,” he says, adding: “Part of the problem is purely finding staff and having the right person here at that time of the day to grow it. We used to close (food to go) at two, now we've gone to seven, but we have a licence to go to 11. I think Just Eat and, especially the pizzas etc. will help support expanding the hours.”
His next big ambition is to capitalise on the growing demand for protein products. “We're looking within our food to go, touching on protein shakes, protein meals, protein on-the-go, snacking. I think that's probably the next growth area,” he predicts.
Wyatt's store has a thriving vape section, which generated over £120,000 in sales between May and September alone. His foresight in building dedicated vape display units, along with his collaboration with major brands like Titan, Elfbar, and Liberty Flights, positions his store as a leader in the evolving vape market.
With an eye on the impending disposable vape ban, Wyatt is now actively guiding customers towards more sustainable and cost-effective pod and liquid-based systems.
“Over the last two years, we have navigated all the ranges, as soon as it is out, we've done it. Now, over the last six months, obviously, it's been a shift to the pods, and we've managed that,” he says.
“We're managing with explaining the benefits of the cost savings for customers, because ultimately, they need to come up with disposable and they need to go on to a rechargeable product. And with that in mind, I've worked with Liberty Flights, so that we have a strong liquid base product as well as this.”
Wyatt is confident that vaping will remain a key category in his store’s future success.
“People still want the disposables, they like the flexibility. But we're noticing the transition over to IVG and these types of products. Also, you're seeing a lot of maneuvering by whether it's Elfbar, Crystal, Gold bar, they've got the four-in-one, the six-in-one, the 10,000-puff pods. If you are loyal to a brand, they're putting out the large product now. So, by the time the ban comes in, I think most people will have converted to a larger product anyhow,” he notes.
“So, we are there to support, guide, help. It's been a big category, but I think it can remain a big category. And it has been a massive area for us.”
Key to success
Wyatt is quick to acknowledge that the backbone of his success is his staff.
“Ultimately, everything comes down to my staff,” he emphasises. “We got a lot of staff that have been here a long time. They're loyal. They offer good customer service. We've created a good shopping environment, but keeping my staff is the most crucial thing.”
Whether it's ensuring they feel supported in the face of challenges like theft or paying above minimum wage to retain talent, Wyatt believes that looking after his team is paramount.
“That's the key thing. It may not be flashy or anything, but I think you’ve got to put an arm around them. Look after them, because without them, the job is very difficult, isn't it?”
Wyatt also offers a valuable piece of advice: embrace change.
“Times change. Change is coming all the time and to be ahead of it and to work with it is probably the key thing that I need to do, and that would be my tip to anyone else,” he reflects.
Kay Patel always takes adversity as a challenge, and her determination to prioritise and succeed won her the Businesswoman of the Year award
“Remaining in your comfort zone is a barrier,” according to Kay Patel, who has made a career of attaining success by being uncomfortable and testing herself to the limits.
Over three decades, Kay has transformed her business from a small independent store to a multi-million-pound enterprise, navigating personal and professional challenges with grace and determination. And, the dynamic entrepreneur behind six thriving convenience stores in Surrey has been recognised as the Businesswoman of the Year at the 2023 Asian Trader Awards.
“I did step out of my comfort zone, and I did do things. I used to do banking as well, and I obviously have to accommodate other aspects of my life. It's all about prioritising what is first,” she says. “And sometimes you've got to put yourself in there as well.”
Kay's foray into the retail industry began in 1997 when she and her then-husband acquired their first store in Box Hill, Surrey. At just 20 years old and two weeks postpartum, Kay faced the dual challenge of motherhood and entrepreneurship. But her passion for retail shone through.
“I always want to do my own business. I became a very young mother, and it was a challenge. But if you're ambitious enough and you have a motive to work towards it, I think you can balance anything in life. I just took that as strength and then carried on,” she recollects.
Growing up in a business environment, Kay was inspired by her father Jagdish Patel, who came here from Africa in 1972 and worked in a plastic-making factory, before opening his own a store in Croydon. They later moved to Surrey and from a young age Kay accompanied her father to the cash and carry, and helped with the accounts, which sparked her interest in retail.
In 1998, the Box Hill store became a Costcutter, marking the beginning of Kay's association with the symbol group. Over the next decade she expanded her portfolio, acquiring and running several stores. This period also saw Kay balancing her growing family and a part-time job as a banking advisor.
“I think organisation is a secret to balance, giving the correct job the right priority,” she says. “You've just got to make sure you're ready for every situation and be a little bit more organised – although with children, young children, you cannot always be organised. But I always prioritised what was first.”
Resilience in adversity
Kay's resilience was profoundly tested in 2020, a year marked by personal and professional upheaval. Following her divorce in February and her mother's passing in September, disaster struck in December when a fire destroyed her prized Witley Village Stores. The fire, occurring during the festive season and amid the global pandemic, left Kay without her primary source of income.
“It was such a tough, challenging time. The fire destroyed the only source of income I had at that time, so financially it was a struggle and mentally I was exhausted,” she reflects.
Despite these challenges, Kay's determination never wavered. With the moral support from her three children, she rebuilt the store, transforming it into a larger, more modern establishment. The reopened site saw a 50 per cent growth in weekly sales, a testament to Kay's ability to turn adversity into opportunity.
“It wasn't easy,” she says. “My kids were there for me, and they were my strength and the ambition to carry on. I don't know how to describe it, to be honest. It was the phase that if I collapsed, then my whole world will collapse, including my kids. But if I kept fighting and going on, it meant I would build a better future for the children. So for me, as for all mothers, their kids are priority, and I think that's what I took down as the strength and carried on thinking I need to do this, not only for myself, but for my children as well.”
Her oldest daughter is a pharmacist, and the elder of the two sons has joined her in the business after graduation, while the younger is “setting out to do his own thing”.
Prior to the fire she had made commitments to buy other stores, so it was tougher getting the finance in place with a closed store. But she secured funding to grow the business, which saw the addition of four more Surrey stores during 2021. She bought her latest store in December last year.
Each new acquisition showcased her strategic vision and innovative approach. For instance, Kay's Costcutter Cranfield, which had been closed for 11 months due to Covid-19, saw a remarkable turnaround, with takings growing from £9,000 to £22,000 and still increasing.
Creativity and attention to detail are hallmarks of Kay's business philosophy. Her stores feature unique elements such as the “Play as you Go” area at the Cranfield store, where children can play with new and exciting toys while their parents shop. This innovation not only enhances the shopping experience but also boosts sales of these toys.
“We interact with our customers, and ask them questions as to, ‘What would you like in your local store?’. We have a lot of ideas, and it's not always possible to do everything, because we have to be very cost effective, but we try and incorporate what they suggest and their opinions,” she says.
“And we also ask the team, because I've got a lot of local staff that work for me, and they know the community very well.”
Empowering her team
Kay's success is not hers alone; she attributes much of it to her dedicated team. She believes in leading by example and creating an environment where her employees feel valued and empowered.
“I think initiative is a big thing. You should always praise them for what they do. Although I own the business, they are facing the customer. So I think they need to feel valued at all times and make sure they have the right training in order for them to carry on the right duties, to expand the business, and to build that relationship with the customers as well,” she says.
Kay's approach to management includes comprehensive training programmes, regular one-on-one meetings, and team-building activities. She fosters a culture of open communication and continuous learning, encouraging her staff to take initiative and learn from their mistakes.
“Training is a key thing. I have a portfolio of my own, basically shop training, alcohol training, the compliances, health and safety, all that. We try and do all that once every three months, and keep on top of it. And then, obviously, just making sure that the team actually practice that on an everyday basis,” she explains.
Kay also emphasises cleanliness and presentation, believing that a clean and hygienic environment attracts customers.
“We have a checklist for morning, afternoon, evening. For example, we make sure our coffee machine gets cleaned at least three times a day, because that's something customers are looking at. They want to see that hygiene. Dusty shelves are not always appreciated. I think a clean and hygienic environment also brings the customers in, and that's what we work towards every day,” she says.
Community engagement
For Kay, who has been a parish councilor for six years, business is not just about profits; it is about giving back to the community. She views her stores as community hubs and actively engages with local schools and sports clubs.
Local sourcing is another cornerstone of Kay's business.
“We specialise in fine wines and spirits in one of the stores. We have our local breweries. We have our local bread supply, local eggs. And we don't really source them. They actually come to us because we're all about helping small businesses. It's very important that these small businesses survive as well. So any little help that we can give by purchasing from them, I think it's a great idea, because it puts revenue back into the community,” she notes.
She highlights how the local businesses stepped up during the pandemic, when stores faced availability issues.
“It was the small businesses that actually delivered the bread, the eggs, and the flour. We used to buy a 10 kilo bag of flour to bag up on the premises and do one kilo each and sell it, because we couldn't get any flour, any pasta,” she says. “It was the small businesses that actually kept us going as well. So, it goes around in a circle, doesn't it?”
It’s the journey
Kay is a strong advocate for women in retail and she says winning the Businesswoman of the Year award from Asian Trader was a proud moment for her.
“I was absolutely gobsmacked when I was nominated, and I felt very proud,” she says. “Think about it, after 30 years, I was recognised. I've been doing this for 30 years. It's a very long time, and to achieve an award after all this, because you don't expect anything. You just keep going. You do what you're good at, you do what you're good at, you do what you're good at. Very rarely, someone comes up to you and says, ‘You know what? someone else is actually proud of you’.”
While she thinks that women are now getting more recognised than they were before, she would like to see even more of it.
“There are a lot of women out there that do a lot of things, but not their skills and their knowledge and their efforts, they're not appreciated,” she says.
“When Asian Trader brought out the Businesswoman of the Year award, I think it was a fantastic thing. They actually recognised that women are in business, and they do have a business head. They can also run a business successfully, as successfully as running their home and looking after the kids,” she says.
She encourages young women to pursue their dreams, emphasising the importance of the journey rather than the destination.
“I think they should go ahead and listen to what they want to do. It can be a challenge, but I think every challenge is a learning curve, and I think they should go out there in the world and show their talent and show that they've actually got something to give back to the community,” she says.
“It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Destination could be anywhere, you can reach your destination as in little time as you want to, but it’s the journey that you actually live towards it, the learning curves you learn, the people you meet, the friends you make – the enemies you make!”
In fact, you’ll see a canvas with this quote – “It’s not about the destination, it’s about the journey” – In each of her stores.
“Although everybody reaches their destination, everything they learn through reaching that destination is important. That's my motive. It will always be so,” Kay concludes.
Last year Asian Trader had a big in-depth interview with PepsiCo snacks guru Nic Storey, and we caught up with him again to get a bulletin on what’s commercially crispy in summer ’24
Last year, Asian Trader did a big Interview with Nic Storey, Senior Sales Director for Impulse & Field Sales at PepsiCo, for our summer focus on Crisps, Snacks and Nuts (CSN). This year we met Nic again for a catch-up to hear what he thinks is going on and what the near future of snacks trends looks like, especially since by now Covid is far in the rear mirror. So, are we back to the old normal? Are we there yet?
“I don't think we're back to 2019, pre-pandemic norm,” Nic answers. “I think the new norms have changed. Some categories are buoyant now and we can hardly keep up with snacks, which is one of the fastest growing categories. It's a nice problem to have. If you go to any store, whether it be a massive Tesco or a small independent, snacks is one of the highest-performing categories right now.”
CSN is one of the mainstays of the c-channel, so this is good news, and Nic is surprised by the astonishing rate of growth (“pretty amazing”), which is holding at nine per cent in impulse.
"In symbols and indies, CSN is worth £638 million, so this is a big, fast-moving category, and we're finding that retailers are getting behind the category as much as ever – not just because it's driving growth for their stores, but also because it's a category where there's a lot of innovation, and I think retailers enjoy getting behind that, because they know that local-store shoppers like to give things a go, and they get excited.”
As we like to say, it is the nimbleness of indie retailers, in coordination with fast-acting manufacturers, that keep the shelves interesting and alluring for customers, with NPD and offers, changing continually in a way that mults can never manage.
“They're not there to go into a small store to just have the same small, tight range week in, week out, and boring,” Nic agrees: indie shoppers need variety and action, novelty and new tastes, and CSN delivers.
One thing that dependably draws the punters in is the secret weapon of convenience: price-mark packs (PMP).
Trusty PMP
“PMP is the biggest and the fastest-moving part of the category,” Nic says, accounting for up to 70 per cent of c-channel sales in some categories – such as CSN. “That's a role PMPs are playing, and that's the way that shoppers in this channel can get the reassurance and make sure they're controlling their spend,”
The cost-of-living crisis continues across retail, of course, although grocery and especially convenience is somewhat protected – we are not selling furniture, after all, and people always need to eat. And to have fun while they’re at it, despite paying a little more than a mult price.
“People want that convenience, and even if something costs 10p more, they're happy to pay it," says Nic. "You can offer value in different ways, so people can bulk buy and get value that way [in mults and discounters], or they can buy smaller packs.
“What we're finding is that the reassurance of value that PMPs give in this channel is almost our bespoke way of trying to help consumers manage what they're spending. That moved across CSN from £1 to £1.25 across nearly every single manufacturer a couple of years ago, and that's bedded in really, really well.”
PMP is now the biggest and fastest-moving part of the CSN category, and it’s still a relatively new thing.
“Hearken back maybe 15 years and PMP barely existed,” Nic states, “so this really has grown pretty fast, pretty quick, over that period. It's the most important part of our CSN category, without doubt – in this channel – and what I really like, because I don't look after the groceries I look after this channel, and I'm really passionate about it, is that PMP is a differentiator, you know, that you don't get PMP in an Asda or a Sainsbury's or Morrison's or a Tesco.
“This is almost like our play, and this is our way of doing it, and I think that's another reason that retailers get behind it in this channel.”
It is interesting that in a period where many chains and suppliers are maintaining margin through stealth shrinkflation, the honesty of PMP is even a further selling point, no matter an increase to £1.25.
“Sometimes you can look at the grammage of packs, and sometimes you can look at the price. We decided that keeping the grammage the same, and in fact, in a couple of bags, even increasing it, was best,” says Nic.
"With Walkers Crisps, we actually put another five grams into those bags, up from 65g to 70g, to offset some of that, that step up in price – and it's landed really well, it's here to stay. That’s actually a pretty good size, and we find about half of consumption is someone on their own who wants a big eat, and about half is people using it as a small sharing bag. It bridges that single-bag-up-to-sharing-bag gap.”
Nostalgia and premium
Back catalogues are worth a lot of money – David Bowie sold his song rights for £200 million – and there are many brands that are still around or ripe for revival that have a great and increasing appeal. Nic believes this careful curation and merchandising of under-promoted jewels will also be a trend going forward, with nostalgia absolutely the new thing. The brands that have been around for decades are still goldmines.
“I just had a new starter in my team,” says Nic, “and he'd done all his research for the interview and everything. But even yesterday, when we were taking him through the portfolio, he was like, ‘I didn't realize Scampi Fries and Bacon Fries were ours,’ [both Smiths], or ‘I didn't realize about Frazzles and Chipsticks’.”
Nic explains that heritage brands, sometimes don't get the love they deserve: "Consumers love them, but they're out of sight, out of mind.”
He says those venerable but under-appreciated bags are seen as “value brands”: “So, whilst PMP is a great play for value for money, sometimes the value brands are lower tier. Walkers is our mainstream or mainstay brand, but then you've got Frazzles and Chipsticks and Cheetos that we're trying to do more with in this environment.”
Sales are way up, with lots more headroom available – nostalgia is the future!
Mirjam Fogarty, head of operations, Pipers Crisps
Another impact of inflation and tight budgets is the paradoxical one of ongoing premiumisation – spending more on quality as a cheap treat – again, a space in which CSN thrives, and I mention to Nic the rise and rise of Pipers Crisps into the space occupied by brands such as Tyrrells and Kettle Chips, along with many other niche gourmet CSN brands, that appear to be hoovering up an ever larger part of the market.
"Pipers is the best crisp out there,” he declares proudly. "The flavors are so good. We bought the business in to really go into new spaces with it. We've got some amazing classics like cheese and salt and vinegar, but what's really important is the amazing provenance, and even though it's part of the PepsiCo family, we haven't touched that or diluted it one bit.”
Nic says that, for example, the sea salt flavour has to have all of its salt coming from Anglesey (tidal salt dried naturally from sea-water) and nowhere else. Likewise, the Longhorn beef has to come from Longhorn cattle in Berwick.
“We've kept to that, because it's got to be the best provenance and the best crisp out there, and we've just invested £8 million into the Piper's factory a few weeks ago. We've opened up the capacity enormously so that we can go after this brand. That doesn't mean it's going to go everywhere, because we know that it's got a role to play, and that role is mostly in the out-of-home or away-from-home channel, which includes the on-trade, but also convenience as well. “
Taking an originally on-trade brand such as Pipers into c-stores is partly what Nic means by innovation – a great and ongoing driver of c-channel sales. This leads us on to talk about another very interesting way PepsiCo is innovating: by swapping a type of snack and making the flavour the platform instead – all in the name of hotness.
Feeling chilli
“One of the trends that we've really got behind is hot and spicy," Nic enthuses. “It came over from the USA, and we're seeing it across Europe. There is a great propensity for UK shoppers to buy into hot and spicy, something like 51 per cent of UK consumers want to try it, the second highest benchmark across the whole of Europe, second only to Turkey, who are the top and love their spicy food."
It’s a phenomenon that’s been going on for a while and is gathering pace. PepsiCo launched Kurkure Masala Munch to great fanfare and success (and won an Asian Trader Award for it), and they are now expanding the hot and spicy concept to make the flavour the key, applying it across brands as an identifier in itself.
"What we've done very differently is this,” he explains. “We'll often launch a brand or a sub-brand, and then maybe three flavors underneath, but we've tipped the idea on its head. Instead, we've launched a flavour with three sub-brands underneath, so our Extra Flaming Hot is a ‘flavour platform’, and underneath that, we've got it in Wotsits Crunchy, Walkers Max and Doritos. The priority of the campaign has all been about heat and flavour, not a brand.”
So the flavour is the platform, got it. It’s a great concept.
“We do things well at scale,” Nic continues, “so we’ve put the Extra Flaming Hot into every channel, because we're a mainstream, big supplier and we need to please as many people as possible.”
This innovation spreads into all aspects of sales, including the merchandising of idea as well as product – and that is where theatrics comes in.
"The nuanced approach we took for convenience [with Extra Flaming Hot] was that we gave it a lot more love for the launch this year. I'm really proud that we brought over 20 independent and symbol retailers on board, engaged them before the launch so we could refine our launch plans, and then just gave them all of the armory to go ballistic on the launch. And we had the coolest engagement ever.
“Retailers had their tasting stations in the store, they were doing TikTok videos – we had one which involved him throwing a smoke grenade into his store, filling the whole store with billowing smoke before walking through and emerging with the product.”
Nic says he was confident it could go well, “but it went massive”. He says, “We gave ‘over-and-above' POS kit, like full arches and everything with fire extinguisher setups, to these retailers – and the halo effect of that is enormous.”
For Nic, the beauty of the c-channel (and he genuinely loves it) is the camaraderie and helpfulness:
“Impulse is a really harmonious channel in that people are keen to do well, but they're not elbows out and are keen to share best practice, share the love and learn from one another as entrepreneurs – and I really like that. We've lit the fuse, pardon the pun, and then it's really, really taken off in this channel. “
His prediction for the next year?
"Hot and spicy isn't just a flash in the pan, so I see that continuing, without doubt. I see the momentum on PMPs as well. I think those two areas, with a bit of nostalgia and reinvigoration of old brands.”